http://pablowegesend.blogspot.com/2012/07/college-reform.html
But now the geniuses running UH-Manoa is begging it's students to take 15 credits instead of just 12 credits per semester.
http://www.staradvertiser.com/newspremium/20120720_UH_urges_its_students_to_boost_semester_credit_loads.html?id=163154506
Just one-third of full-time students at the University of Hawaii's four-year campuses take 15 credits a semester, putting them on track to actually graduate in four years.
That's a big concern for university officials, who point to research that shows the longer students take to pursue a degree, the less likely they are to finish.
So, as part of efforts to increase its graduation rate, UH is launching a new campaign to urge full-time students to take 15 credits each semester, rather than the minimum 12. Fifteen credits usually translate into five courses.
And more
Linda Johnsrud, UH executive vice president for academic affairs, said taking 12 credits has become the norm for full-time students locally and nationally — but it shouldn't be.
Why don't you MIND YOUR OWN BUSINESS Ms Johnsrud?
Your students are not children, they're ADULTS!
And they have lives outside of the campus you know!
This is a time in their life that the students are becoming LESS dependent on their parents! This is especially true for students who are NOT from the wealthy families! Most of the UH students are definitely NOT from the wealthy families!
That means they got to work to pay their daily expenses! After all, they can't just rely on mom&dad anymore!
And even if they are from wealthy families, students KNOW that employers WILL NOT HIRE ANYONE WITHOUT WORK EXPERIENCE, Not even those with college degrees!
So that's why students are working while in college!
And if that means they take less classes per semester, than over-managers like Ms Johnsrud should just BACK OFF AND MIND THEIR OWN BUSINESS!
After all, even with work and school, students still need time to chill, sleep and eat!
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This is why for-profit colleges are gaining momentum here! Students are tired of dealing with over-managers like Ms Johnsrud at state universities! For-profit colleges, even with their flaws, understand that students have lives outside of school, students have jobs and they are able to fit the student's schedule!
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Here is a comment in response to that same Star Advertiser article
bobbob wrote: Additionally, if you are a freshman, you'll have a lot tougher time actually fitting courses into your schedule because the courses you can take are limited, and the upperclassmen have scheduling priority. When you look at the list of classes you need to take, all you see is "0 seats" right down the webpage.
on July 20,2012
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bobbob wrote: It is not easy to graduate on time at UH because of all the crazy requirements being heaped upon students as the years pass. By the time I graduated in 2005, they were already increasing the load on students with additional required classes and "focuses". ------- In mainland schools, more students can graduate on time because the requirements are a lot fairer. At UH, they need high body counts to support the liberal arts programs, so it'll take students 3 years just to get into their major of choice. Then another 2 to complete the 10 course (or so) major. --------- The solution is simple, pare back on the prerequisites, then add to the major courses. Students would graduate faster and be better prepared in the major of their course. Example, foreign language is nice, but does everyone really need it? Current requirement is 4 semester courses. Cut out the foreign language requirement, make it an elective, then add 1-2 courses to the major. Same for history, does anyone outside a history major need 2 semesters of history? Etceter
on July 20,2012
08:26AM
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bigislandkurt wrote: Encouraging them is one thing, but can UH deliver in offering the classes? Don't promise anything you can't deliver on.
on July 20,2012
07:46AM
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Yes, I'm in the process of applying to UH-Manoa, this time for graduate school! The above was referring to the undergraduate programs. The staff member from my intended graduate major was more understanding about the student's outside priorites than that Ms Johnsrud that I mentioned earlier.
But yeah, I'll take how many (or few) classes I feel like taking per semester! If anyone got a problem with that, they can screw away and a get a real life to live!
