Thursday, September 08, 2011

The Police Can't Protect You Everytime - the UK edition

While people tell you "you don't need a gun to defend yourself, just call the police", I have exposed several incidents in which the police were NOWHERE TO BE FOUND during moments of mass chaos.

In one blog post, I mentioned how the police either did nothing or were too overwhelmed during mass shooting sprees and riots.

http://pablowegesend.blogspot.com/2008/12/police-cant-protect-you-everytime.html

And earlier this year, i mentioned about the infamous shooting spree in Norway, where it took MORE THAN AN HOUR for the police to arrive at a camp where the shooter was killing children! MORE THAN AN HOUR!

http://pablowegesend.blogspot.com/2011/07/police-cant-protect-you-everytime.html

Not only that, most of Norway's police were UNARMED! That's right, the police were DEFENSELESS against an armed suspect! Norway's police force isn't much of a police force!



Now, the riots that took place in the UK last  month shows more evidence that the police aren't always out to protect you!

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2024412/London-riots-Police-soft-looters-ordered-stand-observe.html

Police were ordered to 'stand and observe' rioters as they laid waste to London's streets instead of confronting them, it was claimed today.

Read that again people! The police were REQUIRED to STAND AND OBSERVE RIOTERS!

That's right, if you were getting viciously attacked, or if your home and workplace is being vandalized, the police could be ordered to STAND AND OBSERVE!

A police that stands and observe is TOTALLY WORTHLESS! But that's how the police acted at the begginning of the London riots!


More from that article

 
Scotland Yard insiders have revealed teams were frustrated at their inability to wade in and arrest troublemakers while they looted and burnt out shops.


They had apparently been told to try and contain any violence but not to haul away offenders who would instead be identified through video footage later, according to The Times.


It was only on Monday night, when the riots escalated still further, that tactics changed and armoured vehicles called Jankels were used to disperse the crowds.


On Tuesday night, some 16,000 officers also flooded London's streets - almost triple the previous night's deployment - and they were finally given the green light to confront the gangs.

(skipped paragraphs)

The police's tactics have led to much public criticism from residents and business owners, who are bemused at the 'soft' approach when their livelihoods are being ruined.



Eye witnesses have told of ranks of police standing by while mobs of youths rampaged and stole from shop fronts and terrorised residents.



Not only were the police not allowed to stop looters and vandals, civilians aren't even allowed to defend themselves BY ALL MEANS NECCESSARY!


http://blogs.telegraph.co.uk/news/nilegardiner/100100323/if-british-shopkeepers-had-the-right-to-bear-arms-vicious-thugs-would-think-twice-before-looting/


During the Los Angeles riots in 1992, many store owners in the south central part of the city defended their property against marauding gangs with their own weapons, and succeeded in protecting their livelihoods and thousands of jobs that depended on them. And across the country, Americans admired their bravery, thankful for the Second Amendment to the US Constitution which protects their right to keep and bear arms, and thereby defend themselves, their families and their property. In contrast in London in 2011, shopkeepers were left at the mercy of feral, brutal thugs acting with impunity across whole swathes of the capital as the police were overwhelmed. If they had the right to bear arms and defend their stores with force, it would have been a very different story, and brutal looters would have met firm resistance.

 
Britain’s gun laws are among the most draconian in the world, yet the nation has some of the highest levels of violent crime and burglary in the West, and there is no shortage of gun crime in major cities such as London and Manchester. While criminal gangs are often able to acquire firearms on the black market, ordinary law-abiding British citizens are barred from owning guns for self-defence.


The riots in London, the West Midlands and the North West should prompt a renewed debate in Britain over the right to bear arms by private citizens. The shocking scenes of looting across the country are a reminder that the police cannot always be relied upon to protect homes and businesses during a period of widespread social disorder. The defence of life and property can never be entrusted solely to the state, not least when there is a complete breakdown in law and order. As we have seen this week in Britain, when individuals are barred from defending their own property from mobs of vicious thugs, sheer anarchy and terror reins.


=======

Even though it was hard for the law-abiding citizens of the UK to get guns to defend themselves, some store owners did resort to baseball bats to defend their property against looters

http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2011/aug/09/london-riots-fighting-neighbourhoods

When the rioters came to attack the premises of Kurdish and Turkish businesses in Hackney's Stoke Newington High Street and Kingsland Road on Monday night, the owners were waiting for them.



"It was between about nine and 10 at night," said Yilmaz Karagoz, sitting in his coffee shop next to a jeweller's shop that has been shuttered since Sunday when the rioting began and a pharmacy that closed a day after.


"There were a lot of them. We came out of our shops but the police asked us to do nothing. But the police did not do anything so, as more came, we chased them off ourselves." The staff from a local kebab restaurant ran at the attackers, doner knives in their hands. "I don't think they will be coming back," Karagoz said.


On Green Street in East Ham a similar-sized group of rioters was chased away by several hundred Asian residents. And in Bethnal Green local shopkeepers came out to defend their property.


Tuesday night there were further reports of communities taking steps to defend themselves. Dozens of men were guarding the main Sikh temple in Southall, west London.


Around 200 people were walking around the centre of Eltham, south-east London, following rumours that the area was going to be the latest place to be hit by disturbances. The group, predominantly men, had been congregating in pubs since the rumours began to circulate in mid-afternoon. "This is a white working-class area and we are here to protect our community," said one man. In Enfield, north London, about 70 men were seen chasing a group of youths.


Further anecdotal evidence also suggested that in other cities hit by Monday night's violence, communities were also remaining vigilant. On Amazon sales of baseball bats and truncheons rocketed overnight. Sales of one aluminium bat increased 65-fold in a day, albeit from low initial sales, while a truncheon jumped from a sales rank of 5,973 to 136.


(skipped paragraphs)

When the trouble came, hairdressers, sales assistants and butchers were among the scores of Turkish and Kurdish workers who stood outside their businesses in Green Lanes, Haringey, from 8pm having been warned by police to expect trouble.





The Guardian filmed others – some armed with baseball bats – on guard outside shops and restaurants in Kingsland Road, only a mile away from Hackney's burning high street. Three workers from Re-Style Hairdressers were among those out in Green Lanes, after word spread that an attack was imminent at about 4pm.


"I was here with my brother and my boss waiting for them until about midnight," said 16-year-old Huseyin Beytar. "If some guy ever breaks a window in this street, all the Turkish Kurdish people come down to protect the shops. We're like a family."


"We have to do things for ourselves," said Huseyin. "We have to look after each other. If they come here tonight there will be a fight, a big fight."


"We were outside ready and expecting them," said the manager of Turkish Food Market, who asked not to be named.


"But I felt very panicky because we are not safe from either the rioters or police.


"We put all of our efforts into this shop. It took 20 years to get it like this. But we do not know about our rights."I'm scared that the police and the government will attack us if we defend our businesses.
"We are being squeezed between the two."

 
I agree with those store owners with the baseball bats! Those who try to vandalize and loot those stores deserve to get their heads bashed by those people they're trying to victimize.
 
But using a baseball bat requires you to get near the person you're trying to hit. You don't need to get close to someone if you got a gun. You could just aim at a distance! That distance factor makes gun much more effective in defending stores than baseball bats!

 

=======
Now, I'm NOT advocating that we just get rid of the police, nor am I saying using guns in self-defense is as easy as it looks on TV! 

But most criminals pick on the defenseless. They overwhelming majority of criminals are NOT interested in a fair fight! In most cases, most of them run like cowards if you just point a gun at them!

We need the police to investigate crimes and prevent crime. But they're humans, and they're flawed as the rest of us!

In an emergency, you're on your own in the crucial first few minutes! 911 can help, but help will arrive in minutes! Someone can brutally physically damage you IN SECONDS!