The law passed by 53% overall!
Here's the racial data, courtesy of CNN
http://edition.cnn.com/ELECTION/2008/results/polls/#val=CAI01p1
White 49% yes, 51% no
African-American 70% yes 30% no
Latino 53% yes 47% no
Asian 49% yes 51% no
Other 51% yes 49% no
California has one of the most liberal white populations in the USA! This is especially true in the San Francisco Bay Area, as well as the liberal areas in & around Los Angeles (ie. Hollywood, Malibu, Westwood, Santa Monica, etc.)
If it was almost any other state in the US, the European-American vote would be against same-sex marriage!
As for the Asians, I'm assuming most of the same-sex marriage supporters are the US-born Asians, especially among those from the San Francisco Bay Area. They are totally Americanized and exposed to the liberal values of the Bay Area from childhood!
I'm also assuming most of the anti-same-sex marriage folks in the Asian community are the immigrants. The Yes on Prop 8 folks had more ads in Asian-language newspapers than the No on Prop 8 folks.
As mentioned, the majority of Latinos & African-Americans were against same-sex marriage.
1) Obviously, the liberal reaction is "how dare they, they should know what it's like to be oppressed"
It's not that simple!
Most people outside of the Bay Area view homosexuality as "gross".
So many in East LA or South Central LA have a hard time viewing "gays as oppressed", because in their minds, they hate being compared to people who they think as "gross".
When I was younger, I was against same-sex marriage because I thought "homosexuality is gross"! When I got older, I started to realize that people don't choose who they are attracted to!
I learned that people who had same-sex attractions have it really hard! They can't openly admit it because everyone would freak out! They can try to get those same-sex attractions out of their heads, but it's something they can't change! This leads many to suicide, knowing almost no one will accept them!
Also, even if one thinks "homosexuality is gross", that's no reason for the government to micro-manage their lives, no reason for the government to persecute them!
But the the idea that "homosexuality is gross" is hard to counter-act, even harder to counter-act against most prejudices! That's what is in people's mind when they vote on this issue!
So even if they're liberal on various issues, they'll still can't vote for same-sex marriage!
While many conservatives are thinking "at least the African-Americans are with us on this one issue", that won't be enough to get them vote Republican! After all, many may not like homosexuality, they're not thinking "I'm going to vote for candidates on this one issue".
It's more like "I agree with Democrats on most issues, so I'll vote Democrat! As for same-sex marriage, I'll just fill in that bubble on the ballot, but other than that, I'll side with Democrats"
I also think religious conservatives take too much credit on this issue! After all, many same-sex marriage opponents also do things that horrify religious conservatives (ie. have affairs, abortion, out-of-wedlock parenting, go to strip clubs, do drugs, etc.) So in many cases, it's got less to do with "homosexuality is a sin in the Bible" than more to do with "Eeeeewwwwww, that's gross"
2) in my previous, I mentioned the gay liberation movement is targeting Mormons over Prop 8. I also mentioned Mormons made easier targets, because they're not part of the "liberal coalition" that Democrats need for electoral victory! So I mentioned that they're less likely to target African-American Christians, Latino Catholics, Jews, Muslims, all of whom are part of the "liberal coaltion" that Democrats rely on!
However, since then, I have learned that European-American homosexuals have been committing acts of racist hate against African-Americans, even the ones who supported same-sex marriage!
I have first learned about this from this editorial by Harry Jackson, an African-American Christian conservative!
http://townhall.com/columnists/HarryRJacksonJr/2008/11/17/no_more_mr_nice_gay!
Adding insult to injury, Geoffrey a black gay student at UCLA, joined a massive protest outside the Temple of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints in Westwood. As he was marching with his “brothers,” folks in the crowd turned on him calling him the n-word twice. Here is his account which was posted in Rod 2.0:Beta and other gay blogs:
“It was like being at a Klan rally except the Klansmen were wearing Abercrombie polos and Birkenstocks…. A young WeHo clone said after last night ‘the n…s better not come to West Hollywood if they knew what was best for them’. ”
Another black protesting for gay rights, Ronald, claimed that three older white men shouted, “Black people did this, I hope you people are happy!” Black gays are suddenly aware that there are some real racial tensions within their movement.
Jasmyne Cannick, a black lesbian writer for the Los Angeles Times, reported that many white gays were simply hurling expletives at every black person they saw at their protest rallies. In her view, black gays had bigger fish to fry than the issue of marriage.
Afterwards, I read this from Thomas Sowell, another African-American conservative
http://townhall.com/columnists/ThomasSowell/2008/11/19/the_right_to_win
The worst of all the reactions from people who act as if they have a right to win have come from gay activists in the wake of voter rejection of so-called "gay marriage," which is to say, redefining what marriage has meant for centuries.
Blacks and Mormons have been the main targets of the gay activists' anger. Seventy percent of blacks voted against gay marriage in California, so racial epithets were hurled at blacks in Los Angeles-- not in black neighborhoods, by the way.
Blacks who just happened to be driving through Westwood, near UCLA, were accosted in their cars and, in addition to being denounced, were warned, "You better watch your back."
Even blacks who were carrying signs in favor of gay marriage were denounced with racial epithets.
For more on this, check out
http://www.inquisitr.com/7881/proposition-8-protest-turns-nasty-african-americans-targeted/
http://www.lifesitenews.com/ldn/2008/nov/08111212.html
http://www.jasmynecannick.com/blog/?p=2846
To date, I have received several phone calls from Blacks, both gay and straight, who were caught up in Westwood around the time of that march. From being called “niggers” to being accosted in their cars and told that it was because of “you people gays don’t have equal rights and you better watch your back,” these gays have lost their damn minds.
But I know one thing, they won’t bring that shit south of the 10 freeway. (Pablo's note: that's South Central)
All I can say is that I wish that had been me in Westwood some gay called a “nigger.” I keep bail money and a lawyer on retainer for exactly these types of occasions.
If gays want to blame someone for Proposition 8, they can start with their leaders—also known as the gay mafia, whose egos, white superiority complex, and misunderstanding of Black people’s priorities for this election season guaranteed certain outcomes.
It got to the point where the Gay & Lesbian Center had to put out a statement telling their supporters NOT to scapegoat African-Americans for Prop 8.
http://www.lagaycenter.org/site/PageServer?pagename=Community_Letter_Prop_8
Now, this has been ignored by left-wing websites like Salon & The Nation!
The Radical Left wants to pretend that "all Caucasian racists are also homophobes" and they'll point out right-wingers like Jesse Helms and David Duke!
This doesn't erase the fact some white supremacists are gay! That's not a joke! Not all gay people are racially tolerant!
http://abcnews.go.com/print?id=6284348
Emil Wilbekin, who was named one of the Top 100 most influential gay men by Out magazine, acknowledges the homophobia but also blames the overwhelmingly white gay community for practicing a kind of "institutional racism" where blacks are not welcome.----
"Black gay people are not always accepted in the hierarchy of gay society, which is successful, with disposable income and second homes," said Wilbekin, who caused a sensation when, as an openly gay man he was appointed editor of Vibe, a magazine that serves the hip-hop culture. "The gay community is not one big happy family."
This will NOT help the gay rights cause. All it will do is give the image of "gay is a white thing", which will further alienate African-Americans from the idea of gay rights!
