Saturday, February 24, 2018

What is an Adult? (part 3)

(note: the previous "what is an adult?" blog posts can be found at
http://pablowegesend.blogspot.com/2013/05/what-is-adult.html
http://pablowegesend.blogspot.com/2013/09/what-is-adult-part-2.html



Ever since the Valentine's Day school shooting in Parkland, Florida, there has been protest marches by the teenage students from that school for more gun control.

This activism has renewed calls to allow 16-year olds  to vote?

But at the same time, gun control want to limit sales of certain type of rifles to people 21 years old or older.

So which is it? We're adults at 16, or adults at 21?  That's a 5-year gap!

An article from the left-wing publication TheNation advocates that 16-year olds be allowed to vote, based on the bright insights that teenagers sometimes have on current events

https://www.thenation.com/article/lower-the-voting-age-to-16/


But if someone is old enough to vote, smart enough to vote, mature enough to vote,  then it shall stand that the same person is old enough, smart enough and mature enough to...............


  • drink alcoholic beverages
  • smoke
  • join the military and be sent to battle
  • buy some rifles

And if a 16-year is considered "adult enough to vote', then..........

  • a 16-year old criminal should only be tried as an adult
  • a 16-year old criminal should be held in adult prison
  • a dead 16-year old shouldn't be called a "dead child"
  • a situation where 16-year olds are being killed shouldn't be referred to as "killing children"
Those 4 bullet points (oops, sorry for the wording) will make left-wing activists cringe since they're usually the ones who advocate against trying teenage suspect as adults, putting teenage criminals in adult prison, and they ALWAYS call a case of police/gang/lone-wolf shooting of teenagers as "killing children"

But when teenagers advocate for policies favored by many left-wing "progressives" (ie, gun control), they're all of a sudden not "children" anymore, but adults who deserve the right to vote!

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Being that I'm a wannabe librarian (I've majored in Library & Information Science), I've also noted the section where books published for teenagers is labeled the "Young Adult Section"

Young adults?

15-year olds are "young adults?"

So what would happen if someone my age (37) attempted to have sexual relations with those 15-year old "young adults"?

That would be a statutory offense.  The person my age would be arrested and be labeled a "sex offender" who would be banned from anywhere near schools where these so-called "young adults" attend.

You see why I'm not a fan of calling the teenage section of the library as a "young adult section".

As far as I'm concerned, Young Adults are people who just finished high school, the stereotypical age of college undergraduates.

(note that I said "stereotypical age", a 35 year old who finally started college would definitely NOT be a "young adult")


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And back to that TheNation article that I mentioned earlier, there was this quote that made roll my eyes

Noting that high-school students have “far better BS detectors” than adults, constitutional scholar Lawrence Tribe asked as the young people from Florida opened up the gun debate,“Wouldn’t it be great if the voting age were lowered to 16?”

Wait, what? Teenagers have   “far better BS detectors” than adults?



I'm sorry, but get real! Even the most intellectually gifted teens are unprepared for the mind-games of con artists, pimps, cult leaders, and other shady characters who view them as "fresh meat".

Every teenager wants to promote a "street-smart" image of themselves. Nobody wants to be seen as the naive, gullible fool. But there's ALWAYS someone who can outsmart you and con you. If they can't outsmart you one way, they'll outsmart you another way.

Even adults have trouble with that. Anyone who is emotionally vulnerable (that includes teenagers who proclaim themselves "sophisticated", "street smart" and "hardcore") can be manipulated by those who tell them what they want to hear.  Those who claim to have "better BS detectors" are about to learn a hard lesson about their bragging when they're in unsupervised situations at college, signing contracts, and more.

I definitely wouldn't claim to be immune from manipulative people, as you can learn from my situation at this blog post


And a blog post about other people who claimed that they're immune from being taken advantage just because they're "tough" and "street smart"


This is not to say teenagers don't have valuable insights. They do. 
I mean, I had some brilliant insights back when I was 16, but I also learned a lot more since then! Some through formal education and "book learning", but more through life experiences that I didn't yet have at that age!

Oh, oh, that word "life experience". My dad used to say "you don't have life experience" to deter criticisms of his decisions.

Some of his decisions were wrong, but more accurately, wrong timing!  Like buying and moving house in a different part of the island when I was a teenager.  I hated my parents for that! I hated my parents for putting in a situation where I either go to school with people I don't know, or continue go to school with people I know but lie about the home address to do so!  Living a lie can take it's toll. 

I later told my dad "your life experience doesn't include growing up in Hawaii" (it's true), and told my mom (who did grow up in Hawaii) "your life experience doesn't include changing neighborhoods growing up" (also true), so they didn't have the life experience I had. So much for them having "life experience"


As an adult I sort of understand why dad used the words "life experience" (nevermind that his different "life experience" made it hard to understand my life experience). 

Because as an adult, I have gained some life experiences that I haven't yet experienced when I was a teenager arguing with dad (though I'm still right about that stupid house though).

For example, I now have experience being having to stay employed to pay my living expenses. 

Having a job and keeping a job requires sometimes making split-second decisions under severe psychological pressure. The results of such pressure is much worse than getting an "F" on the report card or doing detention after school. The results are getting a different type of "F" (fired, as in, you just lost your source of income, good luck avoiding homelessness now) or doing real time in incarceration, which would make afterschool detention seem "easy"

Also, having such responsibilities mean you'll experience all your "bright ideas" that you had as a teenager turn to severe failures.

Right-wing writer Kurt Schlichter had this to say when young rightwing blowhard Tomi Lahren got fired from TheBlaze last year.


We need to dispense with the cute kid conservative novelty acts and understand that our ideology – unlike liberalism – is not based on feelings and preferences but is instead drawn from a wisdom and understanding of human nature that comes only from hard-won life experience. That’s not to say young people should sit down and shut up – far from it. They have valuable insights we need to hear, especially from worlds they uniquely inhabit, like colleges or the company-level military. Sometimes they have done in-depth study and reporting on specific issues, including writing books. That’s earned expertise, not some mere knack for viral ranting, and that’s not what we are talking about here.
It’s our own fault for letting them represent us to the world – maybe we do it because they flatter us by offering a dim reflection of what we believe. But when they recite conservative chapter and verse for us, that’s all they’re doing – reciting. It’s not ingrained, it’s not seared into them through study and experience. It’s a stunt, a parlor trick. One of several reasons we conservatives need to stop putting them out there is because most conservatives have a youthful liberal phase and the kid who delights us today by mimicking our views will likely take a misguided off-ramp or two along the road to adulthood. 

and this 
Hey, I don’t blame the conservakids for cashing in on the spotlight. If I was 24 and someone offered me a gig and a boatload of cash, game on. But as it happens, when I was 24, I was a platoon leader in Germany during the last years of the Cold War leading other young people. 



You see, in the military, one wrong move can get you killed!

In business, one wrong move  based on what you thought were "brilliant ideas" can cause your company to go bankrupt and workers laid off!

While I wasn't in the military, and nor do I own a business (unless you count my selling my music via online distributor as a "business", though I don't have any employees), I do have some experience with "bright ideas turned to failure"

I worked as a substitute teacher, and I came into the job with some bright ideas that I thought would work.

Those "bright ideas" led to students not taking my authority seriously and some classroom chaos.  Those "bright ideas" led to  administrators wondering "what the hell were you thinking?"

I had to learn from failure, and readjust how I do things.

You can only learn so much from a book or a video. You actually have to do things under pressure.

You actually have to face failure, and learn to grow and readjust from that! 

Though I was dreaming circa 20 to be a well-known commentator (I was thinking musical commentator like Chuck D, or news commentator like Bill O'Reilly), I am now glad I didn't get the early fame like Tomi Lahren did.

Tomi Lahren never had to be in an authority position (that could be military, business, or teaching) where you have to make hard split-second decisions under psychological pressure where failure could lead to very embarrassing and life-changing results. 

It's easy to rant about "how things should be" based on cliches.

It's harder to make serious leadership decisions in real time.

It is these decisions, and readjusting based on results gone wrong, that later give your words much more credibility than someone who just came straight outta the ivory tower.

Don't get me wrong, I do like it when teenagers pay attention to current events & history, and are attempting to base a political philosophy based on what they learned.  That's exactly what I was doing when I was that age. (Though to be real, that was at a time before social media and YouTube).

However, teenagers need more "seasoning", more time to digest the various viewpoints instead of just repeating cliches.

This isn't just directed at anti-gun teens who only learned the anti-gun side of the story , but I'm also thinking of the anti-abortion teens who repeat the cliches of their parents/church/etc but haven't yet been in a situation of facing an unwanted or difficult pregnancy!


Teenagers will eventually grow into gaining real life experience where they apply their knowledge and  see their ideas put into action. Sometimes, those ideas get validated, other times, those ideas get smashed into pieces. 

But that's OK, that's what becoming an adult is! We all live and learn!

Monday, February 19, 2018

comments on #metoo (social awkwardness edition)

Best believe I've had a lot of social awkwardness in me over the years! It's a part of being human!

As a kid, I've learned inappropriate humor from an early age and thought of it as the best way to entertain peers. As we got older, less and less peers got entertained, and I've eventually learned to distance myself from inappropriate humor. Now it's to the point where I cringe when I hear others using the same inappropriate humor I once engaged in!


[note: this issue has been addressed in my 2016 blog post "Outgrowing Inappropriate Humor"
http://pablowegesend.blogspot.com/2016/10/outgrowing-inappropriate-humor.html]

As a teen, I noticed that the more popular boys would poke girls on the side, and teased the girls which got them giggling. I was thinking "this is how you get chicks".  I tried that and usually got disastrous results. Lost the respect of some girls. Others giggled when they asked me to stop the pokes/jokes,  and they later accepted my facebook requests. I still wonder if they think I'm a hypocrite when I posted links to blogs/articles about sexual harassment. Too afraid to ask!


As you can see, the rules of social engagement can be complex.

That sentence alone can get many feminist activists very angry!

Let me be clear!

There is absolutely ZERO excuse for forcing sexual intercourse on a person!

There is absolutely ZERO excuse to take advantage of anyone who is too drunk/drugged/passed-out to consent. 

There is absolutely ZERO excuse to pressure anyone to take drugs or drink alcohol!

I might sound "humble-bragging" but I have done NONE of those previous 3 things!

However, things like humor, expressions of sexual interests, and figuring out how the other person could react to both really are complex!

At the nightclubs, some women will intentionally rub their rears against a men standing near them.  Mentioning this isn't "slut-shaming" or "blaming women", it's reality!  It's a fun reality if you're a man into that kind of thing! And yes, those women do enjoy the man "taking the bait".

However, sometimes women will start dancing and shaking her booty without noticing that a man is behind her! The man might think "ooh, this girl is near me, that means she wants me to bump & grind her. After all, the last time I was at this club, another woman did intentionally rubbed her rear on my front and enjoyed it, so this woman wants the same".  But it turns out this woman dancing in front of him really doesn't know he's behind her,  and he's now rubbing his front on her rear and ............. oh, oh, BIG MISTAKE on HIS part! The girl gets freaked out, walks away and her friends give that man a hostile glare!  

And yes, the 2 different situations in the 2 previous paragraphs happened with me.  That's why at the club, I have to make sure the woman knows I'm near before I make any moves. If I'm not sure she knows I'm near, I'll just take a few steps back to avoid contact and awkward situations. 

As you can see much of the nightclub interactions rely heavily on nonverbal cues. After all, the music is so loud, you can't really have much of a conversation. You can try talking into the other person's ear, but even that can lead to wondering what the other person just said!

And with nonverbal cues, they can be misinterpreted.

It's not just about the nightclub, but also in the bedroom (honestly, I have more experience with nightclubs than bedrooms)

That became the topic of conversation when an anonymous woman claimed that she had a bad dating experience with male comedian Aziz Ansari.  While Ansari didn't really assault her, he was accused of pressuring her into doing certain sexual acts and of not catching her nonverbal cues of discomfort.

This was mentioned in a dating advice article titled 

"A Tale of Two Dates: 15 Lessons from the Aziz Ansari Case"


Lo Sharkey, “A Tale of Two Dates: 15 Lessons from the Aziz Ansari Case,” Em & Lo, January 16, 2018,



On facebook, my response to the article was this


The article has "What We Can Learn From HIS Behavior" and "What We Can Learn From HER Behavior"
I especially like [QUOTE] Don’t rely on your non-verbal cues to do the talking. [UNQUOTE]
because men on average as less able to pick up on nonverbal cues (especially being that men have higher rates of Asperger syndrome than women, and those who have it sure isn't going to admit it to you), and you have to be blunt with them.

and I also mentioned this


also this [QUOTE] Do not use alcohol to try to get the sexual outcome you desire out of a date. [UNQUOTE]
there's no need for it, no excuse for it! Been clubbing for years, and NEVER bought a "drink" for a girl. That's some creepy Cosby ish, and totally uncalled for!

Not only have I NEVER bought a girl a "drink", I don't even drink alcoholic beverages myself!

Some people claim that alcohol helps them deal with social awkwardness, but what it really does it makes you a different type of socially awkward!

Some shyness is good! It keeps you from making stupid mistakes that can upset people!

I'm not much of dater, not really a smooth talker. But at the nightclub, when the music is pumping and a great song is on, I'm on the dancefloor. I might have a few clutzy moments (I don't have the fancy footwork of a MC Hammer or Micheal Jackson), but I'm pretty good with the rest of my body. ðŸ˜‰I let the music guide me! 

There's no need to be drunk or buzzed! There's no need to drink alcohol to get rid of social inhibitions on the dancefloor! The music should be enough to guide you! 

And I don't buy drinks for women, period. Exclamation Point!

For what? You think that will get her to like you?  It doesn't work that way! You don't impress her by buying drinks, you impress with your personal coolness! I do it on the dancefloor!

Also, buying her drinks will also get her into the habit of accepting drinks from strangers. You're not going to be the last stranger, and the next stranger might have some really bad intentions for her!  You don't want her to get into the habit of accepting drinks from people like that!  


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Now on to the workplace.

In the workplace, I'm all business! 

(full disclosure: Though there were a few cases of me poking females on the sides in the workplace back in 2004 & 2005. I'm saying this now before anyone claim I'm a hypocrite for writing about sexual harassment/assaults issues now in 2018)

So yeah, after 2005, I've became all business! 

And being in mostly female work environments, I wouldn't even dare attempt what many males have been getting away with in male-dominated environment for centuries. I couldn't even get away with even 10% of what females can get away with in a female work environment!

And being that much of my work involve schools, the environment is very hyper-vigilant when it comes to anything that reeks of sexual harassment. Certain conversations and jokes just don't happen among the staff there, not even in the worker's lounge! Anyone who tries that is not only stupid but super-stupid! Even though political pundits claim that "teacher unions are liberal" (being that they mostly support Democrats),  the Al Franken styled jokes aren't tolerated at all!  So there is some form of social conservatism among mostly pro-Obama teaching workforce!

Even among male workers there, you aren't going to hear about "getting chicks", because let's face it, presenting yourself as a pervert or a creep will end your career at the schools really fast

Working in that environment (plus having more mature friends) got me to the point where a long-lost friend who I reunited with on 10-year high school reunion year was so shocked when he learned I no longer participate in inappropriate humor and that I no longer go to strip clubs and I no longer watch porn

[note: I explain more in the following blog posts
http://pablowegesend.blogspot.com/2015/01/money-down-drain.html
http://pablowegesend.blogspot.com/2017/02/time-not-just-money-down-drain.html



That being said, much of the #metoo movement focused on workplace harassment. 

This from a #metoo skeptic Cathy Young

Cathy Young, “Is 'Weinsteining' getting out of hand?,” Los Angeles Times, November 1, 2017
http://www.latimes.com/opinion/op-ed/la-oe-young-weinsteining-goes-too-far-20171101-story.html


More broadly, the #MeToo movement, which tends to lump together a wide range of male wrongdoing from rape to "creepy" or boorish behavior, raises a basic question about human relations in the working world: Can work and sexuality or romance ever mix? For many supporters of this campaign, the answer seems to be no.
Concerns that the post-Weinstein climate may lead to witch hunts against any man who flirts with a female colleague have been met with angry comments along the lines of "flirting in the workplace IS HARASSMENT." A tweet by singer/songwriter Marian Call that got more than 2,000 retweets and nearly 6,500 "likes" asked, "dudes are you aware how happy women would be if strangers & coworkers never 'flirted' with us again … this is the world we want."
But is it? It's certainly not the world I want: Except in college, nearly every man I have ever dated was either a co-worker or, once I switched entirely to free-lancing, someone I met through work. This is not unusual, even in the age of dating websites and apps. An informal 2015 survey for the online magazine Mic found that men and women under 35 were almost twice as likely to have met their current significant other through work (17.9%) as through online dating (9.4%). Similar findings have emerged from other such surveys.

and more from Cathy Young

Although it is difficult to imagine a woman whose actions come even close to Weinstein's, women do engage in sexual harassment. A male friend of mine who worked for a small magazine as a recent college graduate in the 1980s has less than fond memories of a female co-worker, his senior in both age and position, who sometimes greeted him with jokes insinuating that he was sexually aroused and once groped him under the pretext of straightening out his posture in a motherly way.


[note: best believe that some of that goes on at the nightclub too. I actually had to stop at least 2 women from stop putting their arms around the back of my neck, a sensitive spot for me (fear of neck injuries). Twice, women offered drinks and giggled when I accepted what they said was water. That was just creepy. I walked away safely but literally had a headache afterwards. Another one where I posed for a picture and an unknown woman put made a hand symbol near my pants where her two fingers are so close together it could be interpreted as "he got  small ____" even though she never saw "it". ]

[note #2: not at a club, but also annoying: one older woman did come from behind me to "fix my collar" without even asking me first! I was so pissed that I told her to "go away".]


[note #3: while none of those incidents are anywhere near what Harvey Weinstein did, they also disprove this nonsense that "men don't know what it's like to be inappropriately touched or sexually harassed". And those feminist stereotypes are a super-mega-huge insult to men who have been sexually abused by scumbags like Kevin Spacey or Jerry Sandusky]



  As Cathy Young noted, much of married couples meet at work, and for every case that happens, there some attempts at flirting that might've been socially awkward (maybe the woman preferred someone who looked like Mario Lopez instead), but that isn't really predatory, it was just a wrong guess and social awkwardness. 

And I'm very skeptical of rules that don't allow managers to have sexual relations with adult employees or professors to have sexual relations with adult students!

Sometimes, manager &  adult employees, and professors &   adult students have sexual attractions for each other. 

Sure it might bring a conflict of interest, but to act as if every manager who has sexual relations with an employee is some kind of Weinstein-like monster is just stereotyping! 

Let's look at this funny example written by Claire Berlinski

Claire Berlinski, “The Warlock Hunt,” The American Interest, December 6, 2017
https://www.the-american-interest.com/2017/12/06/the-warlock-hunt/


The things men and women naturally do—flirt, play, lewdly joke, desire, seduce, tease—now become harassment only by virtue of the words that follow the description of the act, one of the generic form: “I froze. I was terrified.” It doesn’t matter how the man felt about it. The onus to understand the interaction and its emotional subtleties falls entirely on him. But why? Perhaps she should have understood his behavior to be harmless—clumsy, sweet but misdirected, maladroit, or tacky—but lacking in malice sufficient to cost him such arduous punishment?
In recent weeks, I’ve acquired new powers. I have cast my mind over the ways I could use them. I could now, on a whim, destroy the career of an Oxford don who at a drunken Christmas party danced with me, grabbed a handful of my bum, and slurred, “I’ve been dying to do this to Berlinski all term!” That is precisely what happened. I am telling the truth. I will be believed—as I should be.
But here is the thing. I did not freeze, nor was I terrified. I was amused and flattered and thought little of it. I knew full well he’d been dying to do that. Our tutorials—which took place one-on-one, with no chaperones—were livelier intellectually for that sublimated undercurrent. He was an Oxford don and so had power over me, sensu stricto. I was a 20-year-old undergraduate. But I also had power over him—power sufficient to cause a venerable don to make a perfect fool of himself at a Christmas party. Unsurprisingly, I loved having that power. But now I have too much power. I have the power to destroy someone whose tutorials were invaluable to me and shaped my entire intellectual life much for the better. This is a power I do not want and should not have.
Over the course of my academic and professional career, many men who in some way held a position of power over me have made lewd jokes in my presence, or reminisced drunkenly of past lovers, or confessed sexual fantasies. They have hugged me, flirted with me, on occasion propositioned me. For the most part, this male attention has amused me and given me reason to look forward to otherwise dreary days at work. I dread the day I lose my power over men, which I have used to coax them to confide to me on the record secrets they would never have vouchsafed to a male journalist. I did not feel “demeaned” by the realization that some men esteemed my cleavage more than my talent; I felt damned lucky to have enough talent to exploit my cleavage.

In other words, some women are filled with joy when a man in authority (or even just a male peer) assertively pursue her.

This isn't to minimize the seriousness of sexual harassment as Ms. Berlinski later said


Do not mistake me for a rape apologist. Harvey Weinstein stands credibly accused of rape. He must face a real trial and grave punishment if convicted, not “therapy and counselling.” Tariq Ramadan, likewise. No civilized society tolerates rape. Many of the men whose professional reputations have recently been destroyed sure sound like they had it coming. The law will decide whether the accused are guilty beyond a reasonable doubt, but I don’t require such arduous proof: I’m already convinced that Roy Moore is a sexual predator and so is Bill Clinton. Neither my certainty nor anyone else’s should be allowed to displace the law. I may be convinced, but I might also be mistaken.

and also this

Given the events of recent weeks, we can be certain of this: From now on, men with any instinct for self-preservation will cease to speak of anything personal, anything sexual, in our presence. They will make no bawdy jokes when we are listening. They will adopt in our presence great deference to our exquisite sensitivity and frailty. Many women seem positively joyful at this prospect. The Revolution has at last been achieved! But how could this be the world we want? Isn’t this the world we escaped?
Who could blame a man who does not enjoy the company of women under these circumstances, who would just rather not have women in the workplace at all? This is a world in which the Mike Pence rule—“Never be alone with a woman”—seems eminently sensible. Such a world is not good for women, however—as many women were quick to point out when we learned of the Mike Pence rule. Our success and advancement relies upon the personal and informal relationships we have with our colleagues and supervisors. But who, in this climate, could blame a venerable Oxford don for refusing to take the risk of teaching a young woman, one-on-one, with no witnesses? Mine was the first generation of women allowed the privilege of unchaperoned tutorials with Balliol’s dons. Will mine also be the last? 

In other words, she wants feminist activists to realize that we should differentiate between social awkwardness and sexual abuse! Yes, they can be on the same spectrum, but we have to be proportionate too!

Socially awkwardness can be targeted by stern words, but the truly sexual predatory behavior requires severe punishment and severe humiliation.  

Proportions matter!

Sunday, February 18, 2018

comments on #metoo (excessive forgiveness edition)

I started writing on issue of excessive forgiveness back in 2012, with a blog post titled 

excessive forgiveness can damage you (and others)

http://pablowegesend.blogspot.com/2012/06/excessive-forgiveness-can-damage-you.html

Earlier this month, I had a blog post titled "clarification on forgiveness", which mentions how religion's demand for forgiveness causes psychological damage to abuse victims, and benefit sex offenders

"Clarification on forgiveness"
http://pablowegesend.blogspot.com/2018/02/clarification-on-forgiveness.html

Also, earlier this month, I had finally started a series on the #metoo movement

Part1 : comments on #metoo (Al Franken and Dan Inouye edition)
http://pablowegesend.blogspot.com/2018/02/comments-on-metoo-al-franken-and-dan.html

Since I started my a #metoo series, I wanted to go back to the issue about excessive forgiveness.


Let's start with Salma Hayek's description of her experience with film producer and sex offender Harvey Weinstein.

Salma Hayek, “Harvey Weinstein Is My Monster Too,” New York Times, December 12, 2017
https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2017/12/13/opinion/contributors/salma-hayek-harvey-weinstein.html


Part of why it took a while for Hayek to go public about her experience with Harvey Weinstein was because she was brainwashed from an early age to forgive even the worst abuses


In reality, I was trying to save myself the challenge of explaining several things to my loved ones: Why, when I had casually mentioned that I had been bullied like many others by Harvey, I had excluded a couple of details. And why, for so many years, we have been cordial to a man who hurt me so deeply. I had been proud of my capacity for forgiveness, but the mere fact that I was ashamed to describe the details of what I had forgiven made me wonder if that chapter of my life had really been resolved.
When so many women came forward to describe what Harvey had done to them, I had to confront my cowardice and humbly accept that my story, as important as it was to me, was nothing but a drop in an ocean of sorrow and confusion. I felt that by now nobody would care about my pain — maybe this was an effect of the many times I was told, especially by Harvey, that I was nobody.

It was this brainwashing to forgive that had made Salma Hayek reluctant to go public about a monster who verbally, physically and sexually abused. It was this brainwashing to forgive that have allowed Harvey Weinstein to not be called out publicly, which made it easier to have more unsuspecting victims for him to attack!



Feminist writer Ijeoma Oluo had this to say to those who demand excessive forgiveness with her article "When Forgiveness Isn't a Virtue"

Ijeoma Oluo, “When Forgiveness Isn’t A Virtue,” The Establishment, December 16, 2015
https://theestablishment.co/when-forgiveness-isnt-a-virtue-d63bcce22c91


We often talk about healing from wrongs committed against us as being a part of the revenge/forgiveness binary. Your base nature wants revenge for the crimes against you. You obsess and rage and it causes you pain. The only way to free yourself from this is forgiveness; you must let go of the harm done to you and to wish those who harmed you well, therefore releasing the both of you from the prison of anger and pain. Some take it even further to say that you must push past forgiveness and even into reconciliation — making amends with the person who harmed you, so you and the person who harmed you can become better people.
This may work for the person who stole your laptop — maybe even the person who stole your boyfriend — but is this really the only path to healing when you have been abused? When you have been assaulted? When someone you love was murdered? When your rights have been repeatedly violated? When your trust has been repeatedly or grievously broken?
When you have been grievously wronged, the pain it causes is real, and your feelings of hurt, anger, and fear are valid. In Psychology Today, Deborah Schurman-Kauflin PhD. reminds us that “Grieving and healing is a slow, slow process that cannot be hurried or skipped.Not only is this process slow, it’s unique to each person and situation. You may have times you wish for revenge, times you wish for reconciliation, times you are numb with depression, times you are paralyzed with fear. That is all valid. But trying to push through all of these to get to forgiveness short-circuits the very necessary healing process.

and more from that article

Schurman-Kauflin recalls the types of pressure she has seen with many of her patients: 
“Family members tell them that if they don’t forgive, then they are going to Hell. In some cases, I’ve seen families turn their backs on victims of sexual abuse because the victims wouldn’t go along with the program and keep their mouths shut. They are told to forgive their attackers and let it go. If they cannot do so, then they are banished from the family unit.
I’ve also seen women who stand up to their abusive lovers only to be eventually cut off by their children because they won’t simply forgive and let bygones be bygones . . . Under such pressure, victims will give in and comply. They say they have forgiven when in their hearts they have not. With time, they see that not only haven’t they forgiven, but now, they are trapped by their words. After all, they have said they forgave and were moving on. They are accused of dredging up the past should they speak out, so back to isolation they go.”
Instead of focusing on healing and comfort, many survivors find themselves obsessing with forgiveness, trying to will away their trauma in order to “move on.” When they can’t do this, not only are they judged by those closest to them, they judge themselves as weak and trapped. The shame of being unable to forgive compounds the pain of the original hurt.


This is the pain caused by the demand of excessive forgiveness!

Those who demand excessive forgiveness truly don't care about the harm caused by physical, sexual, verbal and psychological abuse!

In fact, I say that the demand for excessive forgiveness is abuse, and therefore evil and satanic

Notice that I did NOT say  "forgiveness is always evil".

I say the demand for excessive forgiveness towards abusers is evil!


I easily forgive those who accidentally bump into me. I easily forgive those who accidentally cause inconveniences for me. I eventually forgive those who said the wrong thing in the "heat of the moment" who later realized it was the wrong thing to say!


But to demand that people forgive their rapists is the act of lowlife scum!

To demand that people forgive abusive spouses/parents/bosses/peers is the act of lowlife scum!

Because you know what?

Rapists LOVE IT when their victims are told to forgive them! 

Abusive spouses/parents/bosses/peers LOVE IT when their victims are told to forgive them!

They LOVE it because it protects them from being held accountable and facing real consequences.

This makes abusers feel happier than anyone who just won a championship!

This makes abusers feel happier than anyone who just won a lottery!

This makes abusers feel happier than anyone who just won a full scholarship to a college of their dreams! 

This makes abusers feel happier than anyone who just reunited with a long-lost friend

We shouldn't give abusers that kind of joy!

We should give abusers pain and social stigma! 

And the people who demand excessive forgiveness are themselves people with something to hide.

For example, when former NFL player and actor Terry Crews went public about film producer Adam Venit grabbing his privates,  he was told by music producer Russell Simmons to forgive Adam Venit



Russell Simmons asked Terry Crews to "give the agent a pass, ask that he be reinstated" and ended with his phony spiritual statement "with great love, all things are possible"

Russell Simmons loves to present himself as a vegan yogi who meditates and says profound things.

It turns out that Russell Simmons has multiple rape allegations!

It seems like Russell Simmons wanted Terry Crews to publicly forgive Adam Venit, because Russell Simmons was SCARED that otherwise, Terry Crews might inspire Russell Simmons victims to go public!

Well, it's public knowledge now! Russell Simmons brings unsuspecting women to his office and crib and forces himself on them!

His vegan yogi persona was just a shield to deter his victims from coming forward! That shield doesn't work anymore! 

Russell Simmons just turns out to be the vegan yogi version of Bill Cosby and Harvey Weinstein

People like Russell Simmons,  Harvey Weinstein and Bill Cosby are now put on notice that they can't turn on the TV, radio or the internet without worrying about more embarrassing information about them! 

 For too long, those scumbags benefited from their victims worrying about embarrassing information about them (the victims) going public.

The party is over! Just like Hitler when was about to lose the war, just like Japanese rulers when Hiroshima got nuked, just like the apartheid leaders when it was clear apartheid was about to end, people like Russell Simmons,  Harvey Weinstein and Bill Cosby learned the hard way that their time is up!

Meanwhile, their victims finally have an opportunity for real healing, the type of healing that can NEVER come with excessive forgiveness!